Sign upFinal tidbit of the night: a source in WVU AD thinks the March 7th meeting will be to issue invites to at least 2 BB only schools and to possibly accept and approve applications for 2 all sports members. Sign up“@tsaundry13 Too early to tell. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40 @MHver3 Don’t underestimate a possible Pac12 invite for Airforce either. MHver3 @MHver3. Meanwhile ND maneuvered their way to a sweetheart deal with ACC and was able to leave the faltering BIgEast. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. Sign upThe source that gave me this info said if Apple does pull out of PAC negotiations then it puts PAC in a very bad position and may have to settle for far less money than even the smallest estimates that have leaked. Sources from Colorado are telling B12 contacts that no deal is being presented tomorrow. Might even see a Huskie or two. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Replying to. The numbers are not where the presidents want them. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. Retweets. 9. ”“@ChrisRPhillips B10 dreams for Oregon and Washington left and went to the Bears in Chicago. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. Possibly 3 east coast teams as well but those 3 are not as far along as the zags are. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. 16 Jul 2023 00:27:09. ”MHver3 @MHver3. And several mid tier schools that would be shaky getting a new home as well”“I’m also hearing a lot of people describing espns offer to PAC as a lowball offer. Ed. Looks like their fate is in Amazon’s hands. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. He was dealt a horrible“Oregon is as good as already out the door as talks between the Ducks and B10 are intensifying. Sign upLog in. Tweet about Oregon and Washington 1,843 Views | 20 Replies | Last: 3 mo ago by historian ScottS 2:44p, 7/27/23 Breaking from my source: Oregon and. I was responding to a person that shared an article that AZ was meeting with B12 on Tuesday. To read this post and more, One Month for Only $1. Likes. @MHver3 Stanford has basically said to B10: pay us our actual value vs what the bloated equal share of the big pie would be. 27 Feb 2023 17:36:19“So it’s possible AZ will not be having their board meeting tonight. twitter. Retweets. They know. Log in. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. Replying to. Likes. Baylor is too. SawyerBrown94 @RChalk94 · Jul 20. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. THE OUTLAW @Cougarsportsfan · 19m. “@RChalk94 B12 100% takes Colorado if they want in. 7:34 PM · Jul. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. 3. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK will ask for an extension on the 4/15 deadline We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. ”““We haven't decided if we're going shopping there yet,"-Kliavkoff, spewing venomously at the conference that just recently decided a merger with his conference wasn’t financially attractive. 13. Sign up“Aresco has a petition with the signatures of every G5 school president and G5 conference commissioner to deliver to the FTC complaining of anti-competitive practices and collusion of the selection committee. I don’t hate the PAC. If the ND/Big 12/NBC rumors have any truth to them, I imagine the Big 12 became even more attractive for those schools. Mountaineer Steve. The latest tweets from @MHver3 @MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. AZ has and AZSU problem. MHver3. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. “@BobOThomson I mean it’d be a fun game to play on Saturdays 🤷🏻♂️. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Sign up“So with those for and the state schools (assuming Utah and AZSU get B12 invites) you have a core of 6. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. @MHver3. If Jimbo gets fired from TAMU (unlikely but possible) he would be the front runner. and @Mountaineer_Ste. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. “Also being told that earlier suspicions confirmed. Factions have formed. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. ”Uconn is going to win the championship. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. 21. Likes. Murky version is: ducks are in a row but the can is getting kicked down the road. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. Yormark has a vision. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came in, regardless of whether any others did. 2. Amazon gets more first choice. ”“@mikednfl Absolutely. Sign up. WVU also saw success going from Independent to BIgEast. help. 35 seconds to PACmidnight. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713 Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company 1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Some in the PAC are trying to push a couple of the others out in an effort to add 2 “better” markets for tv and recruiting without increasing the mouths to feed. But I would be remiss to not leave a parting gift. It’s who is 14 that is still up in the air (izona?). MHver3 @MHver3. Rumors swirling today that there may be merger talks brewing between Pac12 and Big12 again. @MHver3 This is the case with any conference not named SEC. Beating out even the 2004-2011 BIgEast. Knight felt it was the best outcome for Oregon and the PAC with no B1G offer coming. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. Retweets. “Those of you worrying about access to playoffs due to harder due to W/L record if B12 drops scheduling FCS and moved to 10 conference games-relax. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came. That’s only 4 million less than SEC. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. Something new that moves forward and forgets the past. ”“B10 has told Washington and Oregon that they have put expansion on hold indefinitely. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. ”Log in. 10:33 PM · Sep 7, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone. Offering to join in football only at 50% of a full share of revenue after the buy in period. That’s it. 11/15 schools would have to vote to disband, and that's exactly what would get gobbled up by the BIG10, SEC, and Big XII. “Looks like we have a new ESPN offer for PAC12. He’s also telling me the big catch with the apple deal would be research grants to member schools-an area apple has been historically lagging behind other tech companies. Miguel. They are content to sit at 16 and wait out Notre Dame. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. @m_iguel_ca. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. Likes. ”BY possibly has a 3rd media partner on board if Fox is a no go for adding $ for new additions. “I’m hearing several Pac12(-2)schools are in complete pandemonium tonight. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. The BYU factor”Interestingly enough Stanford and Cal would not be part of this proposed merger. ”“If Stanford would come they wouldn’t want to be the only CA school but Cal is not a good fit for B12 at all in so many ways. ”Log in. 7. ”“@MHver3 If UA and CU aren't stepping up to the plate and contributing their fair $$$ share to the PAC, it's hard to see how they'll suddenly become valuable assets for the Big 12. Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. AZ too. $320m per year for 12 years. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. Interestingly enough there is another school in these discussions with Boise that is interested in joining just Olympic sports…”“@tsaundry13 You’ve convinced me. Top to bottom though this new B12 would be the best conference ever assembled. I’m packing it up. and. Retweets. Quote. @CFBKnights. 2:24 AM · Jul 3, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Retweets. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. @MHver3. I’ve even called it that myself. “@BIG10Bruin When did I say we weren’t getting some combination of the 4 corner schools. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. “@RChalk94 But Washington and Oregon add $60+ million per year apiece to a tv deal when you look at the data” “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). ”What did I tell you? No new movement to share with PAC presidents. 2. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”10:23 PM · Jul 22, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 5m. We don’t have the endowment they have. I have nothing to gain-no monetization, no click bait links, no podcast. “Boise State making their case for inclusion into the B12. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. At least for the next 6-8 years. @MHver3. 4. 10:09 PM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. ALT. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. 03 Apr 2023 22:41:17Morning tidbit:A very prominent booster for Colorado is now threatening to pull all funding from the school If they do not start to actively seek to get out of the sinking ship that is the Pac 12. I simply share and have a golden reputation of never giving up sources. This person isn’t a high level employee and I’ve verified they are who they say they are. 2. 13 Apr 2023 02:07:57 @MHver3 They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their best case to join on the field. @MHver3. Sign up“I’ve got a pretty big scoop to share that I’ve been sitting on for a few days. yes they are extending his “deadline”. After months of back and forth, with things really heating up since the NCAA tourney started, looks like BY is very close to getting 2 new members a for B12. . ”@MHver3 I don't know what the rumors are you're talking about, but it's pretty simple. The Big 10 should just bring in all the schools in the Pac 10 as a Western division. 2. “I’m going to go out in on a limb here and predict that the 2022 back yard brawl will have a higher rating than any regular season ACC conference game last season. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. Take it with a grain of salt-not my usual source. AZ has and AZSU problem. 251. ”See new Tweets. @MHver3 Big12 is possibly only eyeing 4 of the 6 to stop at 16 for now. My source can confirm Colorado is. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. “Pac12 fans should redirect their anger at the B10 and USC and UCLA. MHver3 @MHver3. That’s it. No one has control. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. read image description. PAC is in an exclusive window with the 2 main networks bidding on B10 that expires next week. Louis Oliverio. Throwing darts at walls still, MHVer3?@MHver3. How to create a thread on Twitter and how to view. @MHver3. com. Likes. BC, Wake, Cuse. GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. 2. Sign up“60 seconds to PACmidnight. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. That’s all I’ve got. and @JimUSFSig. ”“@IceDevilCA @TheAPBerry I was meaning had the second ACC raid not occurred. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. MHver3 @MHver3. I’m hearing we could see a vote by B12 to add them within the next week or so barring a major development. Appx $75m per year. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK. ” “@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. All stuff you heard here from me way before it hit the press. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. “So I was told the proposed breakdown for unequal revenue sharing for PAC. Found. Would help them reclaim partially, a soon to be lost market, and actually aligns very well culturally with PAC. Retweets. Jul 12. It’s the eve of yet another deadline for Pac12 media deal to be presented to members. 33. Replying to. ”@MHver3 · May 25. More interesting news is that OR and UW may not be a shoe-in for the B1G. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. Too many lower tier schools in ACC that won’t have a home if that conference blows up. 131. ACC still has 2 blue bloods to B12’s 1. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. Once again I return from a long absence and bring you info. " Arizona is the wildcard that could keep UConn from getting an all sports invite. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. That’s it. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. Previous offer for 24. I’ve shared that here last summer. “Thank you to everyone for your words of support as my family deals with the loss of a very close loved one. 6. And they all already know the current numbers. “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). 10 Feb 2023 03:36:01Checked with my source regarding B10 proposing half share for ORWA (per Colin Cowherd). “@godawgs4 Not really. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. 30 Mar 2023 18:54:47Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. MHver3🍎 😂 😂 😂. The truth is that’s where the PAC is valued at right now because the bottom half of the remnants are really dragging down the top half in. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. B12 has been told by sources from WSU and Oregon State that they will be submitting applications to the B12 pending how successful the first round of merger talks go. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. I’ll update as I get more info. 2. Also-though much quieter-there will be some zig-Zagging happening this week as well I’m my home state. It actually decreases it. ”Log in. Retweets. @MHver3. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. No $$ yet from the new partner-very early in talksWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Quote Tweets. Stanford has not applied to the B12 but has reached out to gauge interest. Taking the four will crush the P12. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. No vote-just the general consensus during a call I’m told. ”“Also telling that PAC12 is saying they are waiting for B10 contract to close before they “know anything”. I’ve maintained that schools are still waiting on the deal to come in before making a decision. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”Expansion notes thread since some of these are all over the place I thought I’d just consolidate into one place. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. And GK. So at least more spots open. 5% each. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. (Read full thread)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. 2. ”“@kiwicanuck76 I’m told it’s because the conference has 4 states and 8 schools on their no travel list. Of course “official sources” are going to downplay the significance of any talks schools have had Witt other conferences BY has allegedly been engaged all evening with 1 particular school to the west. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. so mhver az asu utah and colorado do you think they are gonzo heading to join us in the big12 ? 1. Staples: The realignment battle for No. My source says it’s getting more and more likely a prodigal son returns. 1. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. MHver3 @MHver3. It was $24. @MHver3. I don’t think anyone is getting in with a negotiated out clause. 4. Houston and BYU applications are in. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. The other 6 split the remaining 40% equally. 7h. I do think the basement for some PAC schools is $28m net per school with at least 50% linear. We currently get about $4m for that same content. “@RChalk94 Governance would make the final call though. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. 2. “The Buffs are an inevitability now. In person. Would need to probably add 6. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. ”“Lots of tidbits and rumors pouring in today. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory. 82. ”Just heard from a source that Oregon has reached out to the B12 about potential membership with the condition they have a negotiated out of the GOR if the B10 comes calling. ”Small PAC tidbit: the unequal revenue sharing model being discussed now would be based on achievement in all sanctioned sports. It was $24. GK still only has the ESPN/Amazon offer of $22m per school. MHver3. A few tidbits I did get:”7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 31 May 2023 12:38:21. @MHver3. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 23. TomKat“One of the two sources that shared this told me that Stanford is pushing for B12 to rebrand if they add the PAC schools. ”“Got some clarification on those Pac12 bylaws from my regular B12 source: leaving teams only forfeit revenues if they leave prior to August 2024. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. No football home for Uconn in exchange either. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. ”“So ESPN takes more games than the current contractual obligation and uses them in the late window. MHver3 @MHver3 ACC source telling me this morning that the school they work for has exhaustively ran the numbers and when compared to the windfall of SEC or B1G tv money the financial risk is outweighed by the future reward. You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets. ”“@SHUWalshgym They’d only need to share about 7-8m per each of the 4 schools. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. MHver3 @MHver3. Retweets. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. Air Force and Colorado State have also been in contact with Kliavkoff. "“@vikingburner @RockCat75 @CFBKnights Replace FSU with Miami and you are correct in that second sentence”“The 3 that want to jump to B12 are fed up with PAC leadership. Then there’s also the chance that the NY6 bowls all become absorbed into the expanded playoffs as round 1 of a 12 team playoff. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “And the killer for Utah is that even tough they are valued in the top half the one Power conference that they have a shot at may not really want them because they have a school in that market and lower valued schools like AZ are actually higher valued to B12. ”“B1G without a Notre Dame addition has reached the point of diminishing returns. This happened sometime in the past few days. 9. ”Log in. OMG I was wrong. There’s so much information to pour through and so many moving pieces that B12 leadership alone can’t keep up. There’s no reason to add anyone else to dilute the tv money just to have an even number.